MM2 - Former Convent of holy Child Jesus

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Support

Inspector's Preliminary Findings on HBC Development Management Plan (ID/9)

Representation ID: 9635

Received: 02/03/2015

Representation:

It is anticipated that the inclusion of the suggested Policy wording as a Main Modification will pledge the safe future of this valuable and historic asset in St Leonards which is under threat of inappropriate development.

Full text:

See attached full submission covering Reps 9630 - 9635 inclusive.

Comment

Inspector's Preliminary Findings on HBC Development Management Plan (ID/9)

Representation ID: 9639

Received: 24/03/2015

Representation:

Qualified support recommending further strengthening of protection: In addition to the changes the council has already agreed to, the following should be included in policy HN6: planning permission will not be granted for development within the curtilage of the former convent of the Holy Child Jesus unless:-
1. It is for enabling development that is in accordance with national guidance.
2. The Italianate East Wing is retained.

Full text:

In addition to the changes the council has already agreed to, the following should be included in policy HN6: planning permission will not be granted for development within the curtilage of the former convent of the Holy Child Jesus unless:-
1. It is for enabling development that is in accordance with national guidance.
2. The Italianate East Wing is retained.

Support

Inspector's Preliminary Findings on HBC Development Management Plan (ID/9)

Representation ID: 9640

Received: 24/03/2015

Representation:

I am relieved and reassured to read that many fears expressed by local residents with regard to a large scale development on the Convent Site
have been addressed. The recognition of the site as 'a valuable historic asset' and the guidelines for consideration in future planning permission
are encouraging.

My hope is that planning permission will not be granted for development within the curtilage of the Former Convent of the Holy Child Jesus
unless:
1) It is for enabling development that is in accordance with national guidance
2) The Italianate East Wing is preserved.

Full text:

See attached full submission covering Reps 9640 & 9641 inclusive.

Support

Inspector's Preliminary Findings on HBC Development Management Plan (ID/9)

Representation ID: 9642

Received: 25/03/2015

Representation:

I strongly support the improvements to protecting the listed buildings and the Italianate east Wing of the Convent of the Holy Child. It is a sensitive and historic site of great potential value to for local residents.

Great care should also be taken of any development near St Leonards Warrior Square station which encapsulates the best of Victorian civic planning.

Full text:

I strongly support the improvements to protecting the listed buildings and the Italianate east Wing of the Convent of the Holy Child. It is a sensitive and historic site of great potential value to for local residents.

Great care should also be taken of any development near St Leonards Warrior Square station which encapsulates the best of Victorian civic planning.

Comment

Inspector's Preliminary Findings on HBC Development Management Plan (ID/9)

Representation ID: 9647

Received: 26/03/2015

Representation:

Qualified support recommending further strengthening of protection: Planning permission will not be granted for development within the curtilage of the former Convent of the Holy Child Jesus unless (i) it is for enabling development that is in accordance with national guidance; (ii) the Italianate East Wing is retained.

Full text:

Please consider the following relating to sections MM2 and MM3 of the Final Consultation.

Re MM2: Planning permission will not be granted for development within the curtilage of the former Convent of the Holy Child Jesus unless (i) it is for enabling development that is in accordance with national guidance; (ii) the Italianate East Wing is retained.

Re MM3: The following should be added to the text: Where the indicative capacity of a site implies a scale and massing that is incompatible with preserving or enhancing the character or appearance of a Conservation Area or its setting, development should be limited to an amount that causes no significant harm to the Area.

Comment

Inspector's Preliminary Findings on HBC Development Management Plan (ID/9)

Representation ID: 9649

Received: 27/03/2015

Representation:

Qualified support recommending further strengthening of protection: The Inspector's preliminary findings on the Local Plan - in particular the strictures on Robsack and the Convent - were greatly appreciated.

By way of feedback I would suggest the following for inclusion in Policy HN6:
Planning permission will not be granted for development within the curtilage of the Former Convent of the Holy Child Jesus unless
i) any 'enabling development' proposed is in accordance with national guidance, and
ii) the Italianate East Wing is retained.

Full text:

See attached full submission covering Reps 9649 - 9651 inclusive

Comment

Inspector's Preliminary Findings on HBC Development Management Plan (ID/9)

Representation ID: 9653

Received: 25/03/2015

Representation:

Qualified support recommending further strengthening of protection: In addition to the changes the council has already agreed to at the hearings, the following should be included in Policy HN6:

Planning permission will not be granted for development within the curtilage of the Former Convent of the Holy Child Jesus unless
i) it is for enabling development that is in accordance with national guidance.
ii) the Italianate East Wing is retained.

Full text:

See attached full submission covering Reps 9653 - 9655 inclusive

Support

Inspector's Preliminary Findings on HBC Development Management Plan (ID/9)

Representation ID: 9663

Received: 27/03/2015

Representation:

Agree that existing listed buildings need to be protected and any development secures the long term suitable use.

Full text:

See attached full submission covering Reps 9663 - 9665 inclusive

Comment

Inspector's Preliminary Findings on HBC Development Management Plan (ID/9)

Representation ID: 9666

Received: 24/03/2015

Representation:

Qualified support recommending further strengthening of protection: In addition to the changes the council has already agreed to at the hearings, the following should be included in Policy HN6:
Planning permission will not be granted for development within the curtilage of the Former Convent of the Holy Child Jesus unless
i) it is for enabling development that is in accordance with national guidance.
ii) the Italianate East Wing is retained.

Full text:

In addition to all my former comments I would like to say;Regarding MM2
In addition to the changes the council has already agreed to at the hearings, the following should be included in Policy HN6:
Planning permission will not be granted for development within the curtilage of the Former Convent of the Holy Child Jesus unless
i) it is for enabling development that is in accordance with national guidance.
ii) the Italianate East Wing is retained.

Regarding MM3
The following should be added to the text:
Where the indicative capacity of a site implies a scale and massing that is incompatible with preserving or enhancing the character or appearance of a Conservation Area or its setting, development should be limited to an amount that causes no significant harm to the Area.

Object

Inspector's Preliminary Findings on HBC Development Management Plan (ID/9)

Representation ID: 9670

Received: 26/03/2015

Representation:

We would support the addition of the text proposed in the statement we submitted on 29th October 2014 as part of the modification:

i) provides a connection to the sewerage systems at the nearest point of adequate capacity, as advised by the service provider.

Full text:

See attached full submission covering Reps 2670 & 2671

Comment

Inspector's Preliminary Findings on HBC Development Management Plan (ID/9)

Representation ID: 9684

Received: 27/03/2015

Representation:

Qualified support recommending further strengthening of protection: In addition to the changes the council has agreed for the plan, the following should be included in Policy HN6:

Planning permission will not be granted for development within the curtilage of the Former Convent of the Holy Child Jesus unless:
i) it is for enabling development that is in accordance with national guidance.
ii) the Italianate East Wing is retained.

Full text:

In addition to the changes the council has agreed for the plan, the following should be included in Policy HN6:

Planning permission will not be granted for development within the curtilage of the Former Convent of the Holy Child Jesus unless:
i) it is for enabling development that is in accordance with national guidance.
ii) the Italianate East Wing is retained.

The following should be added to the text concerning MM3:

Where the indicative capacity of a site implies a scale and massing that is incompatible with preserving or enhancing the character or appearance of a Conservation Area or its setting, development should be limited to an amount that causes no significant harm to the Area.

Comment

Inspector's Preliminary Findings on HBC Development Management Plan (ID/9)

Representation ID: 9686

Received: 27/03/2015

Representation:

Qualified support recommending further strengthening of protection: In addition to the changes the council has already agreed to at the hearings, the following should be included in policy HN6:

Planning permission will not be granted for the development within the curtilage of the Former Convent of the Holy Child Jesus unless
(i) it is for enabling development that is in accordance with national guidance.
(ii) the Italianate East Wing is retained.

Full text:

Regarding Main Modification 2 - In addition to the changes the council has already agreed to at the hearings, the following should be included in policy HN6:

Planning permission will not be granted for the development within the curtilage of the Former Convent of the Holy Child Jesus unless
(i) it is for enabling development that is in accordance with national guidance.
(ii) the Italianate East Wing is retained.

Regarding Main Modification 3 - The following should be added to the text:

Where the indicative capacity of a site implies a scale and massing that is incompatible with preserving or enhancing the character or appearance of a conservation area or its setting, development should be limited to an amount that causes no significant harm to the area.
Take into consideration the local residential area and populace with regards to roads, access, parking, noise and other detrimental effects of such development.

Comment

Inspector's Preliminary Findings on HBC Development Management Plan (ID/9)

Representation ID: 9688

Received: 27/03/2015

Representation:

Qualified support recommending further strengthening of protection: Amend wording to read, "Planning permission will not be granted for development within the curtilage of the Former Convent of the Holy Child Jesus unless (i) it is for enabling development that is in accordance with national guidance, and (ii) the Italianate East Wing is retained."

Full text:

Proposals with respect to MM2 and MM3 - I am in agreement with not a few others who are concerned at the inadequate importance given by HBC's planning department and planning committee to considerations such as design and the need to respect green spaces when assessing housing applications. I therefore put forward the following amendments/additions as proposed by others.

MM2: Amend the wording to read, "Planning permission will not be granted for development within the curtilage of the Former Convent of the Holy Child Jesus unless (i) it is for enabling development that is in accordance with national guidance, and (ii) the Italianate East Wing is retained."

MM3: Add the following: "Where the indicative capacity of a site implies a scale and massing that is incompatible with preserving or enhancing the character or appearance of a Conservation Area or its setting, development should be limited to an amount that causes no significant harm to the Area."

Comment

Inspector's Preliminary Findings on HBC Development Management Plan (ID/9)

Representation ID: 9690

Received: 27/03/2015

Representation:

At the hearings the Council agreed to include the following in Policy HN6 -

The commitment that:
If an enabling development application is submitted the Council will formally notify English Heritage, or any future body that assumes English Heritage's current planning role, that the application has been submitted with a Viability Appraisal for Enabling Development.

Planning permission will not be granted unless:
It is demonstrated that the amount of enabling development is the minimum necessary to secure the future of the place, and that its form minimises harm to other public interests.

Full text:

See attached full submission covering Reps 9690 - 9696 inclusive

Comment

Inspector's Preliminary Findings on HBC Development Management Plan (ID/9)

Representation ID: 9691

Received: 27/03/2015

Representation:

Qualified support recommending further strengthening of protection: I believe the following change should be made to ensure the Hastings Local Plan is both legally sound and legally compliant with regard to the Former Convent of the Holy Child of Jesus:

Change MM2 to: Planning permission will not be granted for development within the curtilage of the Former Convent of the Holy Child Jesus unless it is enabling development to secure the long term suitable use and future of the existing Listed Buildings.

Full text:

See attached full submission covering Reps 9690 - 9696 inclusive

Comment

Inspector's Preliminary Findings on HBC Development Management Plan (ID/9)

Representation ID: 9692

Received: 27/03/2015

Representation:

Qualified support recommending further strengthening of protection: For inclusion in HN6 to MM2 - Planning permission will not be granted unless:
The Italianate East Wing is retained.

Justification for the above inclusion - The Victorian society said it is well built and its demolition would be a waste of built resources and would result in a significant loss of significance. The east wing appears to have been designed in 1895 to compliment the earlier buildings and to provide an apropriat backdrop to the grade2 star listed EWPugin Chapel.

Full text:

See attached full submission covering Reps 9690 - 9696 inclusive

Comment

Inspector's Preliminary Findings on HBC Development Management Plan (ID/9)

Representation ID: 9693

Received: 27/03/2015

Representation:

Inclusion to MM2-Planning permission will not be granted unless:
The design, layout and massing of any amount of development that can be justified as enabling development is sympathetic to its surroundings in order that any harm to White Rock Pleasure Gardens, the Conservation Area and the historic assets within the cartilage of the Former Convent of the Holy Child Jesus.

Justification - Any enabling development that can be justified should live in harmony with these important assets. This site has under-realised potential for tourism. Any harm to these assets should be minimised, in order to maximise the potential for tourism.

Full text:

See attached full submission covering Reps 9690 - 9696 inclusive

Comment

Inspector's Preliminary Findings on HBC Development Management Plan (ID/9)

Representation ID: 9695

Received: 27/03/2015

Representation:

At the hearings the Council agreed to include the following in Policy HN6 -

The commitment that:
If an enabling development application is submitted the Council will formally notify English Heritage, or any future body that assumes English Heritage's current planning role, that the application has been submitted with a Viability Appraisal for Enabling Development.

Planning permission will not be granted unless:
It is demonstrated that the amount of enabling development is the minimum necessary to secure the future of the place, and that its form minimises harm to other public interests.

Full text:

See attached full submission covering Reps 9695 - 9699 inclusive

Comment

Inspector's Preliminary Findings on HBC Development Management Plan (ID/9)

Representation ID: 9696

Received: 27/03/2015

Representation:

Qualified support: Planning permission will not be granted for development within the curtilage of the Former Convent of the Holy Child Jesus unless it would secure the long term suitable use and future of the listed buildings.
Should be replaced for clarity by:
Planning permission will not be granted for development within the curtilage of the Former Convent of the Holy Child Jesus unless it is enabling development to secure the the long term suitable use and future of the listed buildings.

Full text:

See attached full submission covering Reps 9695 - 9699 inclusive

Comment

Inspector's Preliminary Findings on HBC Development Management Plan (ID/9)

Representation ID: 9697

Received: 27/03/2015

Representation:

Change HN6 -
Planning permission will not be granted unless:
The Italianate East Wing is retained.

The Victorian Society believe the East Wing is 'undoubtedly a heritage asset' and that 'This building has aesthetic value in its design and historical value as part of the development of the Convent. It is well constructed and its demolition would represent a significant loss of significance and be a waste of built resources.'

It also appears that the Italianate East Wing could be quite profitably converted(see p4-5 of Comments on Inspectors suggested rewording of Policy HN6 submitted by Rep2142).

Full text:

See attached full submission covering Reps 9695 - 9699 inclusive

Comment

Inspector's Preliminary Findings on HBC Development Management Plan (ID/9)

Representation ID: 9698

Received: 27/03/2015

Representation:

Change HN6-Planning permission will not be granted unless:
The design, layout and massing of any amount of development that can be justified as enabling development is sympathetic to its surroundings, in order to minimise harm to the historic assets within the curtilage of the Former Convent of the Holy Child Jesus, the White Rock Pleasure Gardens and affected Conservation Areas.

This inclusion should assist in minimising the harm to all these very important assets that may result from any justified enabling development and minimise any negative impact to the under-realised tourism potential and regeneration of this deprived,but beautiful, seaside Borough.

Full text:

See attached full submission covering Reps 9695 - 9699 inclusive

Comment

Inspector's Preliminary Findings on HBC Development Management Plan (ID/9)

Representation ID: 9700

Received: 27/03/2015

Number of people: 2

Representation:

The importance of the former Convent Of the Holy Child Jesus, Magdalene Road as a historic and architectural site cannot be over valued by the borough.

The preservation of the site should be at the forefront when considering any new development plan. That it retains its spacial and historic cultural significance and that no planning permission be given unless suitable long term use can be found to benefit the listed buildings.

The geographic situation, as well as the important psychological space the site occupies above Warrior Square Station Area must be guarded.

Full text:

The importance of the former Convent Of the Holy Child Jesus, Magdalene Road as a historic and architectural site cannot be over valued by the borough.

The preservation of the site should be at the forefront when considering any new development plan. That it retains its spacial and historic cultural significance and that no planning permission be given unless suitable long term use can be found to benefit the listed buildings.

The geographic situation, as well as the important psychological space the site occupies above Warrior Square Station Area must be guarded.

Comment

Inspector's Preliminary Findings on HBC Development Management Plan (ID/9)

Representation ID: 9705

Received: 20/03/2015

Representation:

The site at Magdalen Road recently owned by a language school. The Holm Oak Grove is part of the bats foraging area. The acorn harvest is enjoyed by the resident badger clan; Birds and badgers forage in the life litter for worms and beetles the trees are important in the nesting season,with many Protected Species of wildlife foraging across the meadow including native reptiles. The wrong type of development will yield no lasting economic value to our unique seaside town.

Full text:

See attached full submission covering Reps 9704 - 9714 inclusive

Object

Inspector's Preliminary Findings on HBC Development Management Plan (ID/9)

Representation ID: 9800

Received: 27/03/2015

Representation:

A key principal of enabling development is that it provides the minimum amount of new development to secure the identified public benefit which in this case is ensuring the long term viable future of the existing important group of listed buildings. The provision of affordable housing essentially generates zero value and therefore if it is included this will simply increase the total amount of new development (to meet the values required) and therefore will not be the minimum development. Accordingly, sub-para (c) of the policy should be removed.

Full text:

See attached full submission covering Reps 9800 & 9801

Object

Inspector's Preliminary Findings on HBC Development Management Plan (ID/9)

Representation ID: 9801

Received: 27/03/2015

Representation:

The site lies within the built-up area. Development of the site is therefore acceptable in principle particularly if it secures the long term future of the listed buildings. The requirement to market the site will add delay and would not preclude an inappropriate purchaser whose interest may not be to maintain the existing listed buildings. We therefore request that sub-para (d) be removed from Policy HN6.

English Heritage Guidelines require the marketing of the site. However, as enabling development in this case would not, in principle, be contrary to policy, a marketing exercise is unnecessary and may well be detrimental.

Full text:

See attached full submission covering Reps 9800 & 9801

Support

Inspector's Preliminary Findings on HBC Development Management Plan (ID/9)

Representation ID: 11147

Received: 27/03/2015

Representation:

Support

Full text:

See attached submission covering Reps 11146 - 11154 inclusive